Author: Plato
Publisher:
ISBN:
Category : Poetics
Languages : en
Pages : 88
Book Description
Ion
Author: Plato
Publisher:
ISBN:
Category : Poetics
Languages : en
Pages : 88
Book Description
Publisher:
ISBN:
Category : Poetics
Languages : en
Pages : 88
Book Description
Plato on Poetry
Author: Plato
Publisher: Cambridge University Press
ISBN: 9780521349819
Category : Language Arts & Disciplines
Languages : en
Pages : 268
Book Description
Prior to publication of this 1996 book, much had been written on Plato as a critic of literature, but no commentaries had appeared in English on the Ion, or the opening books of the Republic in which Plato launches his famous attack on poetry, since the early years of this century. This volume brings together these texts and the relevant section of Republic 10. It aims to provide the reader with a commentary which takes account of modern scholarship on the subject, and which explores the ambivalence of Plato's pronouncements on poetry through an analysis of his own skill as a writer. A general introduction sets Plato's views in the wider context of attitudes to poetry in Greek society before his time, and indicates the main ways in which his writings on poetry have influenced the history of aesthetic thought in European culture.
Publisher: Cambridge University Press
ISBN: 9780521349819
Category : Language Arts & Disciplines
Languages : en
Pages : 268
Book Description
Prior to publication of this 1996 book, much had been written on Plato as a critic of literature, but no commentaries had appeared in English on the Ion, or the opening books of the Republic in which Plato launches his famous attack on poetry, since the early years of this century. This volume brings together these texts and the relevant section of Republic 10. It aims to provide the reader with a commentary which takes account of modern scholarship on the subject, and which explores the ambivalence of Plato's pronouncements on poetry through an analysis of his own skill as a writer. A general introduction sets Plato's views in the wider context of attitudes to poetry in Greek society before his time, and indicates the main ways in which his writings on poetry have influenced the history of aesthetic thought in European culture.
Ion
Author: Plato
Publisher: Les Prairies Numeriques
ISBN: 9782491251277
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 24
Book Description
In Plato's Ion Socrates discusses with the titular character, a professional rhapsode who also lectures on Homer, the question of whether the rhapsode, a performer of poetry, gives his performance on account of his skill and knowledge or by virtue of divine possession. It is one of the shortest of Plato's dialogues. Commentary Plato's argument is supposed to be an early example of a so-called genetic fallacy since his conclusion arises from his famous lodestone (magnet) analogy. Ion, the rhapsode "dangles like a lodestone at the end of a chain of lodestones. The muse inspires the poet (Homer in Ion's case) and the poet inspires the rhapsode." Plato's dialogues are themselves "examples of artistry that continue to be stageworthy;" it is a paradox that "Plato the supreme enemy of art is also the supreme artist." Plato develops a more elaborate critique of poetry in other dialogues such as in Phaedrus 245a, Symposium 209a, Republic 398a, Laws 817 b-d. summaryIon's skill: Is it genuine? (530a-533c) Ion has just come from a festival of Asclepius at the city of Epidaurus, after having won first prize in the competition. Socrates engages him in discussion and Ion explains how his knowledge and skill is limited to Homer, whom he claims to understand better than anyone alive. Socrates finds this puzzling as to him it seems that Homer treats many of the same subjects as other poets like Hesiod, subjects such as war or divination, and that if someone is knowledgeable in any one of those he should be able to understand what both of these poets say. Furthermore, this man is probably not the poet, like Ion, but a specialist like a doctor, who knows better about nutrition. The nature of poetic inspiration (533d-536d) Socrates deduces from this observation that Ion has no real skill, but is like a soothsayer or prophet in being divinely possessed: "For not by art do they utter these things, but by divine influence; since, if they had fully learned by art to speak on one kind of theme, they would know how to speak on all. And for this reason God takes away the mind of these men and uses them as his ministers, just as he does soothsayers and godly seers, in order that we who hear them may know that it is not they who utter these words of great price, when they are out of their wits, but that it is God himself who speaks and addresses us through them." (534b-d) Ion's choice: To be skilled or inspired (536e-542a) Ion tells Socrates that he cannot be convinced that he is possessed or mad when he performs (536d, e). Socrates then recites passages from Homer which concern various arts such as medicine, divining, fishing, and making war. He asks Ion if these skills are distinct from his art of recitation. Ion admits that while Homer discusses many different skills in his poetry, he never refers specifically to the rhapsode's craft, which is acting.
Publisher: Les Prairies Numeriques
ISBN: 9782491251277
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 24
Book Description
In Plato's Ion Socrates discusses with the titular character, a professional rhapsode who also lectures on Homer, the question of whether the rhapsode, a performer of poetry, gives his performance on account of his skill and knowledge or by virtue of divine possession. It is one of the shortest of Plato's dialogues. Commentary Plato's argument is supposed to be an early example of a so-called genetic fallacy since his conclusion arises from his famous lodestone (magnet) analogy. Ion, the rhapsode "dangles like a lodestone at the end of a chain of lodestones. The muse inspires the poet (Homer in Ion's case) and the poet inspires the rhapsode." Plato's dialogues are themselves "examples of artistry that continue to be stageworthy;" it is a paradox that "Plato the supreme enemy of art is also the supreme artist." Plato develops a more elaborate critique of poetry in other dialogues such as in Phaedrus 245a, Symposium 209a, Republic 398a, Laws 817 b-d. summaryIon's skill: Is it genuine? (530a-533c) Ion has just come from a festival of Asclepius at the city of Epidaurus, after having won first prize in the competition. Socrates engages him in discussion and Ion explains how his knowledge and skill is limited to Homer, whom he claims to understand better than anyone alive. Socrates finds this puzzling as to him it seems that Homer treats many of the same subjects as other poets like Hesiod, subjects such as war or divination, and that if someone is knowledgeable in any one of those he should be able to understand what both of these poets say. Furthermore, this man is probably not the poet, like Ion, but a specialist like a doctor, who knows better about nutrition. The nature of poetic inspiration (533d-536d) Socrates deduces from this observation that Ion has no real skill, but is like a soothsayer or prophet in being divinely possessed: "For not by art do they utter these things, but by divine influence; since, if they had fully learned by art to speak on one kind of theme, they would know how to speak on all. And for this reason God takes away the mind of these men and uses them as his ministers, just as he does soothsayers and godly seers, in order that we who hear them may know that it is not they who utter these words of great price, when they are out of their wits, but that it is God himself who speaks and addresses us through them." (534b-d) Ion's choice: To be skilled or inspired (536e-542a) Ion tells Socrates that he cannot be convinced that he is possessed or mad when he performs (536d, e). Socrates then recites passages from Homer which concern various arts such as medicine, divining, fishing, and making war. He asks Ion if these skills are distinct from his art of recitation. Ion admits that while Homer discusses many different skills in his poetry, he never refers specifically to the rhapsode's craft, which is acting.
Plato. Ion Or: On the Iliad
Author: Albert Rijksbaron
Publisher: BRILL
ISBN: 9047422872
Category : History
Languages : en
Pages : 304
Book Description
On the basis of a fresh collation of the four primary manuscripts, this book presents a revised text of Plato's Ion, with full apparatus criticus. The commentary has a strong linguistic orientation; it includes discussions of Platonic vocabulary. Linguistic considerations are also the leading principle in the choice of one MS reading rather than another. Drawing on Byzantine practices and theories, the book pays special attention to questions of punctuation, an area too often ignored in editions of classical texts. The extensive introduction deals with, inter alia, Plato's attack on poetry, the position of the Ion in the corpus Platonicum—rather late, this book argues—, the title(s) of the dialogue, the reasons why MS Venetus 189 should be considered a primary MS, and the text of the Homeric quotations in the Ion.
Publisher: BRILL
ISBN: 9047422872
Category : History
Languages : en
Pages : 304
Book Description
On the basis of a fresh collation of the four primary manuscripts, this book presents a revised text of Plato's Ion, with full apparatus criticus. The commentary has a strong linguistic orientation; it includes discussions of Platonic vocabulary. Linguistic considerations are also the leading principle in the choice of one MS reading rather than another. Drawing on Byzantine practices and theories, the book pays special attention to questions of punctuation, an area too often ignored in editions of classical texts. The extensive introduction deals with, inter alia, Plato's attack on poetry, the position of the Ion in the corpus Platonicum—rather late, this book argues—, the title(s) of the dialogue, the reasons why MS Venetus 189 should be considered a primary MS, and the text of the Homeric quotations in the Ion.
PHILEBUS
Author: Plato
Publisher: 右灰文化傳播有限公司可提供下載列印
ISBN:
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 111
Book Description
�Socrates. Observe, Protarchus, the nature of the position which you are now going to take from Philebus, and what the other position is which I maintain, and which, if you do not approve of it, is to be controverted by you. Shall you and I sum up the two sides? Protarchus. By all means. Soc. Philebus was saying that enjoyment and pleasure and delight, and the class of feelings akin to them, are a good to every living being, whereas I contend, that not these, but wisdom and intelligence and memory, and their kindred, right opinion and true reasoning, are better and more desirable than pleasure for all who are able to partake of them, and that to all such who are or ever will be they are the most advantageous of all things. Have I not given, Philebus, a fair statement of the two sides of the argument?�
Publisher: 右灰文化傳播有限公司可提供下載列印
ISBN:
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 111
Book Description
�Socrates. Observe, Protarchus, the nature of the position which you are now going to take from Philebus, and what the other position is which I maintain, and which, if you do not approve of it, is to be controverted by you. Shall you and I sum up the two sides? Protarchus. By all means. Soc. Philebus was saying that enjoyment and pleasure and delight, and the class of feelings akin to them, are a good to every living being, whereas I contend, that not these, but wisdom and intelligence and memory, and their kindred, right opinion and true reasoning, are better and more desirable than pleasure for all who are able to partake of them, and that to all such who are or ever will be they are the most advantageous of all things. Have I not given, Philebus, a fair statement of the two sides of the argument?�
Two Comic Dialogues
Author: Plato
Publisher: Hackett Publishing
ISBN: 9780915145775
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 100
Book Description
Together these two dialogues contain Plato's most important work on poetry and beauty.
Publisher: Hackett Publishing
ISBN: 9780915145775
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 100
Book Description
Together these two dialogues contain Plato's most important work on poetry and beauty.
Plato's Ion
Author: John Bremer
Publisher: Bibal Press
ISBN: 9781930566514
Category : Aesthetics
Languages : en
Pages : 394
Book Description
This book contains the complete Greek text of Plato's Ion, an English translation of it, and an in depth analysis. The Ion is one of the shortest of Plato's dialogues and yet it raises two most critical questions. First, is there an art of poetry as a whole, that is, is there an art of words and, if so, what is its nature? All acts of language are poetic, and philosophy is impossible without them. Thus arises the second question: does philosophy itself exist only in the use of words, in the question and answer, in the interchange called dialectic. Dialectic is between people, so that it has an essentially social as well as an intellectual dimension, and it is while the conversation continues that philosophy fully exists; it lives in the performance. Ion performs Homer, and Plato (or his reader) performs Socrates. There are similarities - for example, both have musical or metrical structures - but there are also crucial differences - Ion's performance of Homer has hearers; Plato's performance of Socrates has participants.
Publisher: Bibal Press
ISBN: 9781930566514
Category : Aesthetics
Languages : en
Pages : 394
Book Description
This book contains the complete Greek text of Plato's Ion, an English translation of it, and an in depth analysis. The Ion is one of the shortest of Plato's dialogues and yet it raises two most critical questions. First, is there an art of poetry as a whole, that is, is there an art of words and, if so, what is its nature? All acts of language are poetic, and philosophy is impossible without them. Thus arises the second question: does philosophy itself exist only in the use of words, in the question and answer, in the interchange called dialectic. Dialectic is between people, so that it has an essentially social as well as an intellectual dimension, and it is while the conversation continues that philosophy fully exists; it lives in the performance. Ion performs Homer, and Plato (or his reader) performs Socrates. There are similarities - for example, both have musical or metrical structures - but there are also crucial differences - Ion's performance of Homer has hearers; Plato's performance of Socrates has participants.
Commentaries on Plato: Phaedrus and Ion
Author: Marsilio Ficino
Publisher: Harvard University Press
ISBN: 9780674031197
Category : History
Languages : la
Pages : 346
Book Description
Marsilio Ficino (1433-1499), the Florentine scholar-philosopher-magus, was largely responsible for the Renaissance revival of Plato. This volume contains Ficino's extended analysis and commentary on the Phaedrus.
Publisher: Harvard University Press
ISBN: 9780674031197
Category : History
Languages : la
Pages : 346
Book Description
Marsilio Ficino (1433-1499), the Florentine scholar-philosopher-magus, was largely responsible for the Renaissance revival of Plato. This volume contains Ficino's extended analysis and commentary on the Phaedrus.
Early Socratic Dialogues
Author: Emlyn-Jones Chris
Publisher: Penguin UK
ISBN: 0141914076
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 400
Book Description
Rich in drama and humour, they include the controversial Ion, a debate on poetic inspiration; Laches, in which Socrates seeks to define bravery; and Euthydemus, which considers the relationship between philosophy and politics. Together, these dialogues provide a definitive portrait of the real Socrates and raise issues still keenly debated by philosophers, forming an incisive overview of Plato's philosophy.
Publisher: Penguin UK
ISBN: 0141914076
Category : Philosophy
Languages : en
Pages : 400
Book Description
Rich in drama and humour, they include the controversial Ion, a debate on poetic inspiration; Laches, in which Socrates seeks to define bravery; and Euthydemus, which considers the relationship between philosophy and politics. Together, these dialogues provide a definitive portrait of the real Socrates and raise issues still keenly debated by philosophers, forming an incisive overview of Plato's philosophy.
Plato and the Poets
Author: Pierre Destrée
Publisher: BRILL
ISBN: 9004201831
Category : Literary Criticism
Languages : en
Pages : 456
Book Description
Plato’s discussions of poetry and the poets stand at the cradle of Western literary criticism. Plato is, paradoxically, both the philosopher who cites, or alludes to, works of poetry more than any other, and the one who is at the same time the harshest critic of poetry. The nineteen essays presented here aim to offer various avenues to this paradox, and to illuminate the ways poetry and the poets are discussed by Plato throughout his writing career, from the Apology and the Ion to the Laws. As well as throwing new light on old topics, such as mimesis and poetic inspiration, the volume introduces fresh approaches to Plato’s philosophy of poetry and literature.
Publisher: BRILL
ISBN: 9004201831
Category : Literary Criticism
Languages : en
Pages : 456
Book Description
Plato’s discussions of poetry and the poets stand at the cradle of Western literary criticism. Plato is, paradoxically, both the philosopher who cites, or alludes to, works of poetry more than any other, and the one who is at the same time the harshest critic of poetry. The nineteen essays presented here aim to offer various avenues to this paradox, and to illuminate the ways poetry and the poets are discussed by Plato throughout his writing career, from the Apology and the Ion to the Laws. As well as throwing new light on old topics, such as mimesis and poetic inspiration, the volume introduces fresh approaches to Plato’s philosophy of poetry and literature.